Just Ordered an E600... looking forward to testing

Hi Springs,

The first batch of E600 is expected to ship mid July. We should have inventory around mid August. 

Garrett

Will have to  / try to cycle back in August.

Right now is slow as we don't have anything on the agenda for the week. So I would actually be able to test without 9 things hanging over me

I could start with the E410 and put it up against the Ruckus R510. The R510 is my staple for sports bars. The chain I have been converting over gets 2 R510s on the Floor, 1 H510 in the office, and a ZoneDirector in the Rack. 

Without one second of config or programing... We are looking at  $3070 in hardware.

Unleashed doesn't cut it... so i have to have that Zone Director in there. (There are list of "flakey things" that Unleashed does that makes me constantly scream "F&(% UNLEASHED!" )

I do however rely heavily on Captive portal, Social Log In, Guest Pass Generation, and DPSK. Right now I am toying with linking 3 stores over VPN to share the DPSK keys. If I had gone Virtual Cell I wouldn't need to.

I can't deal with the  CRAP perfomance of UniF--K. Not going back down that route. So I need to get close... When I saw that Social Log In was covered. I tried to order.

Yes, the E410 could be a good start. The E410 will be in stock sooner than the E600. We are expecting our shipment to arrive late June or early July.

Cambium solution would be signifcantly less expensive.

Garrett

Less expesnive is one thing. But as I put it before... "I NEED IT TO NOT SUCK!" UniF--k is less expensive... but it SUCKS!

I need a real, workable solution. I was not aware that I was looking at vaporware. I was under the impression that the product was out and ready for bench. After watching the video and the posts in this thread...I can see that you are still a little ways off.

So I guess I will stop back in a few months.

After my last couple interactions with Brocade... all I can say is... HURRY UP CAMBIUM!!!

Here we are in August... Is the e600 in the wild and ready for testing?

(Had to make due with wAP ACs from Mikrotik to hit a budget last week.)

I only have the e501S and e410 in stock so far.

Garrett

Another month down... anything shipping?

They should be shipping soon. Once they leave China lead time is 4 weeks.

The E501s, E500, and E410 are in stock! 

Garrett

When I checked with indonesia distributor they didn't have product for E600. The un*f* has been launch their high density product.

Hi Spring,

i just have receve 2 E600 for some test. I have to repalce apple airport AC (no longer product) connected to pfsense. I'm not a specialist and have to make some work on it. The advantage of apple (even if I do not share their approach for a few year). It's because I know him, and we must recognize that although he has little option, he works well for my use.

The installation was rather simple, and we know that a good effort was made on the software, and I have indisputably many more options and services. But I have not noticed a noticeable improvement in the range, or the quality of the signal.

Although I waited to have the E600 for a better range to reduce the number of terminal, for the moment it seems not to be too possible, but I'm still in the testing phase.

probably I would do a try with a ruckus R710. I am well aware that the price has nothing to do, but I would like to realize by myself the difference in scope. (Knowing that my need is not too much on the number of connected, but on the scope).

If one of you has already made this type of comparison, in advance of your opinion.
A good evening.

Been so long… I forgot to check if this actually shipped.

Yes! Plenty of inventory on the shelf. Contact me if you are interested in placing an order.

Garrett

gkellner@cticonnect.com

The hardware was so late I completely forgot about this brand.

Guess I need to start looking into this again.

I don’t think you’ll regret it, in my humble opinion cnPilot gives you more bang for your buck than anything else.

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Finally got a e410 on Friday Afternoon.

As I have never been a fan of all these "Its All In The Cloud" services... I am struggling with a few things. Just not used to "thinking" that way when I look for something.

But the first thing that stood out when I swaped a e410 for a UniF--K UAP AC Pro. Several devices on the network did not "get back on". I have put in 9 different APs from multiple manufactures, all with the same SSID and Password... this is the first time this happened.

Also... at point blank range... the basic throughput speed tests were as low as I was seeing with Mikrotik APs. To date... Mikrotik WAPs have shown to be "feature rich and performance blah..."  of all the units I have gone through.

In the cnPilot Software

I can't seem to find schedulers.

I can't seem to find a way to have AP groups per site with radio features and the same SSID.

There is no straight replacement for DPSK/Private-PSK.

etc

etc

I will throw some more time at it this weekend... but i would have really liked to have seen 866 on a speedtest like I saw with Ruckus. Rather than the 185 I saw with the e410. Which matches the Mikrotik wAP AC. And is LOWER than the 290 I have with the wAP AC2 and cAP AC. Well below the 400M on the UAP AC Pro.

Hi Springs,

I think I might be able to help with a few of your questions and queries.

You can set scheduled access by going to:"WLANs" - (select specific WLAN) - "Access Control" - "Scheduled Access".

For AP Groups with different radio settings, you just need to create multiple AP groups, go to: "Configuration" - "Radio" from there you can change various radio settings. Each of your different AP groups can have the same "WLAN" assigned to each group giving you the same IP.

DPSK is a Ruckus patented technology so Cambium can't use it.

Regarding throughput I'd be interested to know know you configured your speed test for both the Ruckus AP and the Cambium AP. I've personally done some simple tests between a Ruckus R500 and Cambium E410. I found that throughputs where similar but Ruckus did have the edge on coverage. Using Ruckus SpeedFlex I was able to get 380Mbps on a 1x1 802.11ac android device from an E410.

Also as a note Cambium does allow you to run cnMaestro on your own server (similar to how virtual SmartZone works with Ruckus) and AutoPilot from Cambium is a similar concept to Ruckus Unleashed. But the industry in general it seems is pushing more towards cloud controllers everyday so like it or not I think you'll have to give in eventually.

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I trash UniF--k at every install I walk into.

The inability to pass a schedule beyond 12AM is a fatal flaw in UniF--k.

A bar usually is open after 12 and often till 1 or 2 AM.

A schedule need to allow a network to be "On" from 11AM Friday Untill 2AM Saturday Morning. Then shut off and come back on at 11AM Saturday. UniF--k can't do this... So I use that as a sales point AGAINST.

DPSK is a "Ruckus Thing". But I can duplicate it in Mikrotik using Access Control List. And I mean Duplicate. I removed my ZoneDirector and copied the DPSK list into Mikrotik Caps-Man access list. The clients moved over to the Mikrotik WAPs without any other work. This was a big deal... So much so that I am being pressed to put per device passwords on all installs. I used to only be able to do that in Ruckus... Private PSK in Mikrotik "Works the same at the client level". The difference... In Ruckus I download the keys from the Controller then assign the clients a key. The first connection now owns the key. In Mikrotik... I have to tie the MAC to the key. 

The trade off... In TIK I can assign a MAC a key. In Ruckus... I can't. So say you have two sites... In TIK... Copy the ACL at one site to the other... And that private key works at both sites. In Ruckus... I am paying for a backup controller and tying them together. At ~$1200 in hardware plus needing to interconnect the 2 Ruckus Sites and license.

Problem I needed to solve Friday...

Ruckus WiFi In a gym, set up by a guy who shouldn't even do a home router.

I will skip all the basic S--t that was wrong and get to a major point.

6 Dual Band APs across 2 floors. The WLANs (SSIDs) need to be all across the entire gym. 3 radios need to have 2.4 turned off all together. 1 WLAN/SSID needs to shut off when they are closed.

So I need a schedule on the SSID for time.

Then i need 2 AP groups.

Group one has all 4SSIDs across both radios.

Group two has all 4SSIDs across 5.8 only.

Ruckus or Tik... No problem.

As I am new to Cambium... I am trying to duplicate this.

As for the throuput problems...

I have a set SSID. Set encryption. Set password. Set channels. Set location.

Then I connect all the same devices and run the test from the EXACT SAME SPOT WITH THE EXACT SAME DEVICES SEVERAL TIMES.