Re-Use Existing Antennas for PTP820

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You can find the REMEC adaptor and Dragonwave adaptor installation guide attached or download from Cambium support web page.

Here is a list of all SKUs availble:

N060082L004A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 6GHz

N070082L003A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 7GHz

N110082L003A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 11GHz

N130082L003A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 13GHz

N150082L001A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 15GHz

N180082L001A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 18GHz

N230082L001A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 23GHz

N260082L001A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 26GHz

N280082L001A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 28GHz

N320082L001A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 32GHz

N380082L001A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 38GHz

N110082L004A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Exalt -> Cambium, 11 GHz, 2ft

N110082L005A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Exalt -> Cambium, 11 GHz, 3ft

N110082L006A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Exalt -> Cambium, 11 GHz, 4ft

N110082L007A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Exalt -> Cambium, 11 GHz, 6ft

N180082L002A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Exalt -> Cambium, 18 GHz, 2ft

N180082L003A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Exalt -> Cambium, 18 GHz, 3ft

N180082L004A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Exalt -> Cambium, 18 GHz, 4ft

N180082L005A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Exalt -> Cambium, 18 GHz, 6ft

N110082L008A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Dragonwave -> Cambium, 11 GHz, 3ft

N110082L009A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Dragonwave -> Cambium, 11 GHz, 4ft

N110082L010A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Dragonwave -> Cambium, 11 GHz, 6ft

N180082L006A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Dragonwave -> Cambium, 18 GHz, 3ft

N180082L007A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Dragonwave -> Cambium, 18 GHz, 4ft

N180082L008A

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Dragonwave -> Cambium, 18 GHz, 6ft

N060082L162A 

PTP820 Radiowave Antenna Conversion kit  Dragonwave -> Cambium, 6 GHz, 6ft

N110082L011A

PTP820 Dragonwave Antenna Adaptor for Cambium, 11GHz

N130082L004A

PTP820 Dragonwave Antenna Adaptor for Cambium, 13GHz

N180082L009A

PTP820 Dragonwave Antenna Adaptor for Cambium, 18GHz

N230082L002A

PTP820 Dragonwave Antenna Adaptor for Cambium, 23GHz

N060082L217A

PTP820 REMEC interface Antenna Adaptor Kit, 6 GHz, Single Pol

N110082L125A

PTP820 REMEC interface Antenna Adaptor Kit, 11 GHz, Single Pol

N180082L062A

PTP820 REMEC interface Antenna Adaptor Kit, 18 GHz, Single Pol

N110082L126A

PTP820 REMEC interface Antenna Adaptor Kit, 11 GHz, Dual Pol

N180082L063A

PTP820 REMEC interface Antenna Adaptor Kit, 18 GHz, Dual Pol

N230082L070A

PTP820 REMEC interface Antenna Adaptor Kit, 23 GHz, Dual Pol
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Allen,

So if a project calls for re-using existing RW dishes, but we want a remote mounted radio, what parts would be required for converting from Dragonwave radios? Speciffically on the antenna side.  I know the PTP820 Remote

Mount kits.

Jeff

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if the antenna provide standard flange, we can always go with remote mount for PTP820, then use flexible waveguide to connect PTP820 radio to the antenna port.

Here is a list of SKUs you may need for PTP820 Remote mount

The PTP820S and PTP820G RFU-C share the same mount bracket. For 6-13 GHz, an adaptor is required as the Radio flange is proprietary. 

N060082L003A PTP 820 RFU-C ADPT 6GHz Remote Mount Adpator - UDR70
N070082L002A PTP 820 RFU-C ADPT 7_8GHz Remote Mount Adaptor - UBR84
N110082L002A PTP 820 RFU-C ADPT 10_11GHz Remote Mount Adaptor - UBR100
N130082L002A PTP 820 RFU-C ADPT 13GHz Remote Mount Adaptor - UBR120
N000082L121A PTP 820 RFU-C Pole Mount kit
N000082L120A PTP 820C DC REMOTE MOUNT KIT
N060082L002A PTP 820C 6G  Remote Mount adaptor - UDR70
N070082L001A PTP 820C 7-8G Remote Mount adaptor - UBR84
N110082L001A PTP 820C 10-11G Remote Mount adaptor - UBR100
N130082L001A PTP 820C 13G  Remote Mount adaptor - UBR120

Regards

Allen

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Allen,

Two Last questions.  What is the difference between the Adaptor Kit and the Conversion Kit.  (the drawings are a little unclear) Are both needed to change a SP RW DW antenna into a DP RW antenna for use with a PTP820C?

Jeff

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For adaptor, you really don't need to do any change on antenna. You just need add the adaptor, then add the PTP820 radio.

When use converter, you basically need remove the old plate and replaced with the new converter. 

From performance point of view, there is no real difference.  You only need one of them. Personally i prefer to use converter than adaptor. As converter make the antenna more like the direct mount PTP820 dish. The adaptor is a add up, it add extra weight to the antenna.

Regards

Allen

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Perfect!  Excellent explaination.

Thank You,

Jeff

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Do these conversion kits also work with any existing Radomes present on the antennas?

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I have several Trango Apex Plus 11 GHz links, one of which has the Trango branded 3 ft dishes which perform well but are big suckers (kind of a deep parabolic design I think).  I desperately need more throughput on this particular link, which is also fairly long, and I was figuring I would have to switch to 6 GHz, take down the Trango monster dishes, and put up new ones.  But in Link Planner, it doesn't look like 6 GHz is light years better than 11 GHz on this link.

So does this mean I could use the Remec adapter to reuse the Trango dishes with PTP820S radios?  (Of course I would have to go through PCNs and license modification.)  Has anybody done this, and is the performance as calculated?

One more question:  why are there different adapters for single and dual polarization?

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"why are there different adapters for single and dual polarization?"

Wouldn't customers be a little skeptical if we offered a one-size fits all adapter?

:)

If the link is single polarization (V or H), it needs a single pol adapter.

If the link is dual polarization (Cross-pol or XPIC, ACAP or CCDP), it needs a dual pol adapter.

Please let me know if I've misunderstood your question!

Thanks for using the forum!

Dave

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Please check "PTP 820 REMEC Adaptor Installation Guide" under PTP820 support web page.

It listed what kind of antenna and configuration can use the REMEC adaptor. 

Regards

Allen

 
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Do the antennas come in single and dual pol?  I thought they were universal.  And that the adapter was basically a waveguide adapter.  I'm trying to understand what about the adapter would make it single or dual pol.  Also not understanding why the dual pol adapter couldn't be used for single pol.

Why do I care?  Because I'm trying to avoid doing something dumb that won't work.

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The single pol interface is rectangular, whereas the dual pol interface is circular.

Copacetic?

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REMEC ODU offer single polarization in both rectangular and circular format as ODU to Antenna interface.

For example, for PTP800, Cambium chose rectangular interface on 6, 11, 18 and 23 GHz. But Trango chose circular for their REMEC ODU.

For example, if you had a PTP800 link want upgrade to PTP820, you can only go with single interface, as it is rectangular. But if you had a Trango link want upgrade to PTP820, you can go with either single pol or dual pol adpator.

Does it help?

Regards

Allen

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Hi

We are trying to reuse antennas(Andrew) 11GHz from RFU-P Seragon with PTP820S.

As I uderstand in this case we need to use antenna adaptor. I found a similar adapter () for the Seragon, but I coundn't find such adapter from Cambium.

I have been traing to understand manual PTP 820 REMEC Adaptor Installation Guide but I'm not sure that this is what i need.

What adapter should i use?

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Hi Anton,

The PTP820 Remec installation guide is for converting a PTP800/Remec interface to PTP820. You said you wanted to reuse an Andrews 11GHz so you can just use the part below. It's a converter kit that allows you to remove the interface and replace it with the converter kit to mate between the dish flange and the PTP820S radio. 

N110082L003A

PTP 820 Andrew Valuline Antenna Convert kit, 11GHz
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Hello,
I hope you are doing well. Could you tell me what kind of shielded antenna is compatible with your base? What model can you recommend?